But all value is subjective, right? Laborers have nothing to do with creating value, right? RIGHT??????
Chris P. McDoughnut.
Oh Crispy, you poor misguided little fuck nugget.
You people…I swear to fucking dinosaur-god you’re going to give my ulcers ulcers, and those ulcers will get their own ulcers and through mutual struggle & shared experience, those ulcers will gain a sense of themselves as a unified gastrointestinal class, and overthrow their ulcerous overlords and usher in an age of enlightenment based upon common ownership of my stomach.
That is until I down a bottle of Pepto-Bismol, flip a table and head-butt a line of capitalists – then the revolution will be over for them, and it’ll begin for me. Why? Because I’m Buenaventura Durruti, goddamit – and I am sick of your bullshit.
First off, subjective is not a synonym for ‘arbitrary’ or ‘pointless’ or whatever other stupid ass noise you neckbeards make before cackling and adding another line to your “internet arguments won” whiteboard while swilling sixteen to thirty-two ounces of ‘Mountain Dew: Code Red’ in a single gulp and lapsing into a diabetic coma where you dream of a woman made of equal parts Anime and ButtCoins.
Subjective means “based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions”. Lots of important things are subjective: ethics are subjective, so is morality and so is the value of commodities like that gold you keep stockpiling because Alex Jones told you to. (What he DIDN’T tell you is that the value of gold is SPECIFICALLY subject to the personal feelings, tastes, and opinions of Goldman Sachs and the other major investment banks, who can control its value via their access to the Commodities Trading Index, but don’t think about that: just buy more of it to stuff in your Prison Planet (R) bug-out bag along with rounds and rounds of bullshit K-Mart ammunition and the 1987 Urotsukidoji – Legend of the Overfiend OVA.)
HUMAN RIGHTS are subjective – the only reason you have any at all is that OTHER PEOPLE have chosen to grant them to you, and they in turn back up those rights with violence – and that’s a good thing, (well, not in your case, but usually) because rights like the rights to life & autonomy are incredibly important. They’re a big part of as to why we’ve survived as a species on a hostile planet for nearly two hundred-thousand years. They’re also why (sadly) people like you have yet to be eaten by wolves.
So what does this have to do with the subjective value of labor, or ButtCoins or those holographic ‘Yu-Gi-Oh!’ trading cards in your closet?
It reveals that when you throw this shit at me – what you’re really doing is playing a game.
See, when you brought this to me, I’m sure you thought I’d pull out the Labor Theory of Value, and talk about capitalists stealing Surplus Value and you thought you’d counter with Marginal Utility and try to present Labor as a commodity and we could go back and forth about how that does or does not specifically incentivize a perpetual cycle of war & poverty until FRIGGIN’ RAGNAROCK. Thor could be grappling with Jörmungandr and we would be talking about more obscure bits of Econ you copy-pasted from Wikipedia while parroting back to me jargon from a Praxgirl video that you left running for a few minutes after you finished fapping to it – but why go through all that trouble? You don’t give two corn-filled shits about economics; If you did you wouldn’t be an AnCap.
If economic theories were something you really cared about you’d STUDY ECONOMICS at university, get a degree & come up with ACTUAL, FALSIFIABLE theories, that could be tested in laboratory conditions and then you’d test the shit out of them because every discredited theory would get you closer to the truth.
But you don’t do that, because you aren’t a scientist like most real economists – you’re an ideologue. Your dicktwat ideology is what’s important to you here, not economics and NOT the scientific method.
What you’re doing now is engaging a rhetorical framing device in order to get me to say: “Geeez, I guess you’re right – The only human labor that matters is the capitalist’s, and fuck everybody else – they’re just commodities like coal, or iron, or those bars of gold you keep buying because Alex Jones REALLY thinks it’s a good idea.”
Except I’m not going to do that, no matter how many ways you try to frame an inherently unequal, unjust, and ill-advisable social relationship to make it seem positive and just. Why? Well first off because you can’t generate value at all without human input (that’s that whole subjective thing) and literally NONE of this stuff is possible without Labor – but MORESO, Because, like morals and ethics; markets, value & prices exist to SERVE HUMANKIND. Not just a handful of humans, all six-billion of us – and the SECOND they stop doing that? Well then it’s time to change them & make them better. Why? Because WE’RE F*CKING PEOPLE AND THAT’S WHAT WE DO.
You, shitlord – are presenting me with one TINY, misunderstood fact that’s not going to do dick for you, or anyone else. Why? Because I am not interested in living in a world where industry and politics are dominated by a tiny, plutocratic minority of property owners – no matter HOW MUCH value you claim they generated. Yes, even if they DID generate that value themselves with their own golden penis – even Jesus does not deserve to be a billionaire, and no matter WHAT your contribution to society is, you do not get to be a dictator.
I do not believe in hypothetical rights that can only be realized by those who can afford them. I believe in universal human rights, both positive and negative. I believe in an end to starvation and exposure and the crimes caused by them. I believe in human life and dignity over all laws that man has made, and ever will make. I believe this because I am an anarchist – and you do not believe this, because you are not.
I’m Buenaventura Durruti, goddammit, I have an economic & political system to overthrow – so get the f*ck out of my way.